{"id":282971,"date":"2019-07-09T10:32:34","date_gmt":"2019-07-09T07:32:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.monitoruldedorna.ro\/?p=282971"},"modified":"2021-06-08T16:27:41","modified_gmt":"2021-06-08T13:27:41","slug":"primaria-cetatenilor-sau-primaria-propriilor-interese","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.monitoruldedorna.ro\/?p=282971","title":{"rendered":"Prim\u0103ria cet\u0103\u021benilor sau prim\u0103ria propriilor interese?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"wzaza6aa613697dd04\" ><script async src=\"https:\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-9832460043734316\"\n     crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script>\n<!-- MDD - \u00eenceput de articol -->\n<ins class=\"adsbygoogle\"\n     style=\"display:block\"\n     data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-9832460043734316\"\n     data-ad-slot=\"2844073262\"\n     data-ad-format=\"auto\"\n     data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\n<script>\n     (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});\n<\/script><\/div><style type=\"text\/css\">\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 1201px) {\r\n.wzaza6aa613697dd04 {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 993px) and (max-width: 1200px) {\r\n.wzaza6aa613697dd04 {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 769px) and (max-width: 992px) {\r\n.wzaza6aa613697dd04 {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 768px) and (max-width: 768px) {\r\n.wzaza6aa613697dd04 {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (max-width: 767px) {\r\n.wzaza6aa613697dd04 {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n<\/style>\r\n<p>\u00cen data de 8 aprilie 2019 am primit de la Prim\u0103ria Municipiului Vatra Dornei adresa cu nr. 9099\/08.04.2019, \u00een care mi se comunica perioada \u00een care m\u0103 pot prezenta la casieria institu\u021biei men\u021bionate pentru a \u00eemi lua banii, reprezent\u00e2nd daune morale \u0219i cheltuieli de judecat\u0103.<\/p>\n<p>\u00cen adresa respectiv\u0103 se mai comunica: \u201ePentru a v\u0103 r\u0103spunde la cele 4 \u00eentreb\u0103ri marcate pe hot\u0103r\u00e2re vom proceda la efectuarea unui control tematic al Asocia\u021biei de proprietari nr. 1 din Municipiul Vatra Dornei, control ce se va efectua \u00een cursul lunii mai 2019. Ulterior efectu\u0103rii acestui control vom reveni \u00een completarea prezentei cu aspectele constatate\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>\u00cen parantez\u0103 fie spus c\u0103 nu de control tematic este nevoie la Asocia\u021bia nr. 1, ci de un audit financiar-contabil serios, mai ales c\u0103, dup\u0103 informa\u021biile mele, mai exist\u0103 o hot\u0103r\u00e2re judec\u0103toreasc\u0103 \u00een acest sens. \u0218i apoi situa\u021bia dezastruoas\u0103 de la Asocia\u021bia nr. 1 este cunoscut\u0103 nu de azi sau de ieri, ci de zeci de ani, de la fiecare Adunare General\u0103 \u0219i din presa local\u0103; doar surzii \u0219i orbii din prim\u0103rie nu v\u0103d \u0219i nu aud nimic.<\/p>\n<p>Luna mai 2019 a trecut, a trecut \u0219i luna iunie 2019 \u0219i nu am primit nici un r\u0103spuns, nu mi s-a comunicat ce s-a constatat \u00een urma \u201econtrolului tematic\u201d. Adresa nr. 9099 a prim\u0103riei din localitate este urmare a Hot\u0103r\u00e2rii Civile nr. 45\/2019, emis\u0103 de Tribunalul Suceava la data de 21 ianuarie 2019, comunicat\u0103 la 4 februarie 2019 (data po\u0219tei).<\/p>\n<p>Dup\u0103 cum vedem, prim\u0103ria se gr\u0103be\u0219te s\u0103 pun\u0103 \u00een executare hot\u0103r\u00e2rea sub aspect financiar (la fel \u0219i asocia\u021bia, de parc\u0103 s-ar fi \u00een\u021beles), dar se arat\u0103 z\u0103bavnic\u0103 \u00een partea cea mai important\u0103 a ei: r\u0103spunsul la \u00eentreb\u0103rile formulate de subsemnatul, din care cea mai important\u0103 \u0219i mai st\u00e2njenitoare era: \u201eC\u00e2nd a fost efectuat ultimul control asupra activit\u0103\u021bii financiar-contabile la Asocia\u021bia nr. 1, \u00een conformitate cu prevederile art. 55 din Legea 230\/2007 \u0219i ale art. 57 din HG 1588\/2007 \u0219i ce s-a constatat \u00een urma acestuia? Ata\u0219a\u021bi documente justificative\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>\u00centre timp, at\u00e2t Legea 230\/2007 c\u00e2t \u0219i HG 1588\/2007 au fost abrogate prin Legea 196\/2018 care reglementeaz\u0103 modul de organizare \u0219i de func\u021bionare a asocia\u021biilor de proprietari, \u00eencep\u00e2nd cu luna octombrie 2019 \u0219i care trimite la cimitirul elefan\u021bilor asocia\u021biile mamut, cum este \u0219i Asocia\u021bia nr. 1 din municipiu. \u00cens\u0103 Hot\u0103r\u00e2rea Civil\u0103 nr. 45\/2019 este definitiv\u0103 \u0219i irevocabil\u0103 \u0219i trebuie pus\u0103 \u00een executare \u201ead literam\u201d altfel atrage pl\u00e2ngere penal\u0103 pentru neexecutarea unei hot\u0103r\u00e2ri judec\u0103tore\u0219ti.<\/p>\n<p>Dar s\u0103 rememor\u0103m faptele! \u00cen data de 30 octombrie 2017 am adresat Consiliului Local al municipiului Vatra Dornei \u0219i Asocia\u021biei de Proprietari nr. 1 un calup de patru \u00eentreb\u0103ri (\u00eenregistrate sub nr. 33703\/30.10.2017, respectiv 1315\/30.10.2017):<\/p>\n<p><strong>1.<\/strong> De ce pre\u0219edintele asocia\u021biei nu afi\u0219eaz\u0103 lunar pe l\u00e2ng\u0103 lista de plat\u0103 a cheltuielilor lunare modalitatea de calcul a acestora, conform prevederilor legale (nu cheltuielile erau problema noastr\u0103 a locatarilor, acestea erau explicate destul de bine, ci diferitele \u201ecote\u201d \u0219i \u201epierderi\u201d, asupra c\u0103rora nu primeam dec\u00e2t minciuni \u0219i abureli verbale; \u00eentre timp, aceste \u201ecote\u201d \u0219i \u201epierderi\u201d au disp\u0103rut \u0219i s-a pierdut \u0219i obiectul lor: explica\u021biile.<\/p>\n<p><strong>2.<\/strong> De ce administratorul nu face informarea trimestrial\u0103 privind situa\u021bia financiar\u0103 a asocia\u021biei, conform art. 63, lit. g din Legea 230\/2007. Nu a f\u0103cut-o niciodat\u0103, de altfel.<\/p>\n<p><strong>3.<\/strong> De ce manifest\u0103 lips\u0103 de comunicare cu subsemnatul.<\/p><div class=\"xkayr6aa613697dd2c\" ><script async src=\"https:\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-9832460043734316\"\n     crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script>\n<!-- MDD 2024 - mijloc de articol -->\n<ins class=\"adsbygoogle\"\n     style=\"display:block\"\n     data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-9832460043734316\"\n     data-ad-slot=\"8739902356\"\n     data-ad-format=\"auto\"\n     data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\n<script>\n     (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});\n<\/script><\/div><style type=\"text\/css\">\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 1201px) {\r\n.xkayr6aa613697dd2c {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 993px) and (max-width: 1200px) {\r\n.xkayr6aa613697dd2c {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 769px) and (max-width: 992px) {\r\n.xkayr6aa613697dd2c {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 768px) and (max-width: 768px) {\r\n.xkayr6aa613697dd2c {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (max-width: 767px) {\r\n.xkayr6aa613697dd2c {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n<\/style>\r\n\n<p><strong>4.<\/strong> C\u00e2nd a fost efectuat ultimul audit financiar contabil la Asocia\u021bia nr. 1, conform prevederilor legale. Nu a fost f\u0103cut niciodat\u0103, c\u0103 dac\u0103 ar fi fost f\u0103cut a\u0219 fi primit r\u0103spuns \u0219i nu m\u0103 adresam instan\u021bei de judecat\u0103.<\/p>\n<p>Prim\u0103ria Vatra Dornei a r\u0103spuns prin adresa nr. 33703\/03.11.2017, prin care mi se comunica faptul c\u0103 a solicitat asocia\u021biei s\u0103 analizeze peti\u021bia mea \u0219i s\u0103 \u00eei comunice ei, prim\u0103riei, modul de solu\u021bionare a acesteia. Apoi lini\u0219te total\u0103! \u00cen data de 12 decembrie 2017 m-am adresat din nou Prim\u0103riei Vatra Dornei \u0219i Consiliului Local, solicit\u00e2nd r\u0103spuns la peti\u021bia mea \u0219i \u00eei avertizam c\u0103 dac\u0103 nici dup\u0103 expirarea termenului legal nu voi primi un r\u0103spuns bine documentat m\u0103 voi adresa instan\u021bei de judecat\u0103.<\/p>\n<p>Am tradus \u00een fapt acest\u0103 amenin\u021bare la data de 4 ianuarie 2018, care a luat forma dosarului de judecat\u0103 nr. 43\/334\/2018. Ulterior, la data de 16 ianuarie 2018, am primit un r\u0103spuns din partea Prim\u0103riei municipiului Vatra Dornei, semnat de primarul Ilie Bonche\u0219, de consilierul juridic \u0219i cel economic, \u00een care mi se comunica faptul c\u0103, \u00een baza dispozi\u021biilor primarului din anii 2015 \u0219i 2016 (extraordinar sim\u021b al anticipa\u021biei a avut domnul primar) s-a efectuat un \u201econtrol tematic\u201d (dac\u0103 nu a fost audit, care a fost tema, c\u0103 eu tot nu \u00een\u021beleg?) \u0219i c\u0103 solu\u021bionarea peti\u021biei a fost \u00eenaintat\u0103 Asocia\u021biei nr. 1.<\/p>\n<p>Aceasta din urm\u0103 s-a controlat pe sine \u00eens\u0103\u0219i \u0219i a constatat c\u0103 toate sunt bune \u0219i frumoase \u0219i c\u0103 sunt devreme acas\u0103. Nici mai mult, nici mai pu\u021bin! Am considerat r\u0103spunsul o glum\u0103 nes\u0103rat\u0103 \u0219i am l\u0103sat justi\u021bia s\u0103 \u00ee\u0219i urmeze cursul, care s-a materializat, cum aminteam, cu Hot\u0103r\u00e2rea Civil\u0103 nr. 45\/2019 a Tribunalului Suceava. Acesta obliga p\u00e2r\u00e2\u021bii, adic\u0103 Prim\u0103ria \u0219i Consiliul Local, respectiv Asocia\u021bia nr. 1, la plata daunelor morale \u0219i a cheltuielilor de judecat\u0103 \u0219i s\u0103-\u00eemi r\u0103spund\u0103 la peti\u021bia \u00eenregistrat\u0103 sub nr. 33703\/30.10.2017 (Prim\u0103ria Vatra Dornei) \u0219i 1315\/30.10.2017 (Asocia\u021bia nr. 1), conform Sentin\u021bei Civile nr. 653\/15.06.2018 a Judec\u0103toriei C\u00e2mpulung Moldovenesc.<\/p>\n<p>Cercet\u00e2nd istoricul procesului se pot face c\u00e2teva observa\u021bii interesante: Prim\u0103ria \u0219i Consiliul Local nu au f\u0103cut niciun demers \u00een timpul procesului, nu au depus documente sau acte la dosarul cauzei \u0219i pot spune c\u0103 a fost total dezinteresat\u0103 de mersul procesului, fapt consemnat chiar de instan\u021b\u0103: \u201eDe\u0219i citat legal, Consiliul Local al municipiului Vatra Dornei nu a depus \u00eent\u00e2mpinare la apelul declarat \u00een cauz\u0103 de apelant\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Asocia\u021bia \u00een schimb, prin reprezentantul s\u0103u, pre\u0219edintele Dorin Larionescu, a depus acte \u0219i documente, doar c\u0103 prin acestea a \u00eencercat s\u0103 induc\u0103 \u00een eroare instan\u021ba de judecat\u0103 prin furnizarea de \u00eenscrisuri false sau privind alte cauze, prin minciuni \u0219i dezinform\u0103ri, fapte consemnate \u00een \u00eencheierea de \u0219edin\u021b\u0103. Am mai f\u0103cut referire la aceast\u0103 atitudine \u0219i \u00een alte materiale de pres\u0103, publicate \u00een Monitorul de Dorna, \u00een anii trecu\u021bi.<\/p>\n<p>Revenind la rela\u021bia dintre prim\u0103rie \u0219i cet\u0103\u021bean \u0219i la \u00eentrebarea din titlu pot afirma c\u0103 Prim\u0103ria Vatra Dornei nu este a cet\u0103\u021beanului, nu iese \u00een \u00eent\u00e2mpinarea problemelor cu care se confrunt\u0103 oamenii, fie cele legate de furnizarea agentului termic \u0219i a apei calde menajere, fie de alt\u0103 natur\u0103 (crearea unui ambient pl\u0103cut \u0219i civilizat \u00eentre blocuri, de exemplu), ci este prizoniera unor interese materiale derivate din contradic\u021bia \u00een care se afl\u0103: pe de o parte de ap\u0103r\u0103tor a legilor \u0219i al cet\u0103\u021beanului, a nevoilor \u0219i intereselor acestuia \u0219i, pe de alt\u0103 parte, de proprietar al unei centrale termice care furnizeaz\u0103 servicii popula\u021biei, agen\u021bilor economici \u0219i institu\u021biilor (inclusiv prim\u0103riei, adic\u0103 sie \u00eens\u0103\u0219i).<\/p>\n<p>\u0218i de aici conflictul de interese de care s-a tot vorbit \u0219i scris. Tot de aici vine \u0219i nevoia de a avea \u00een fruntea asocia\u021biilor, inclusiv mamutul falimentar cu nr. 1, pre\u0219edin\u021bi care s\u0103 \u00eei fac\u0103 jocurile \u0219i pe care s\u0103 \u00eei la\u0219i s\u0103 \u00ee\u0219i fac\u0103 jocurile. Cum s\u0103 faci audit \u00eempotriva propriilor interese? 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