{"id":282546,"date":"2019-03-25T10:20:58","date_gmt":"2019-03-25T08:20:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.monitoruldedorna.ro\/?p=282546"},"modified":"2019-03-25T10:20:58","modified_gmt":"2019-03-25T08:20:58","slug":"de-ce-se-pierd-procesele-cu-casele-de-pensii","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.monitoruldedorna.ro\/?p=282546","title":{"rendered":"De ce se pierd procesele cu Casele de Pensii?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"laixq6aa6207746f92\" ><script async src=\"https:\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-9832460043734316\"\n     crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script>\n<!-- MDD - \u00eenceput de articol -->\n<ins class=\"adsbygoogle\"\n     style=\"display:block\"\n     data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-9832460043734316\"\n     data-ad-slot=\"2844073262\"\n     data-ad-format=\"auto\"\n     data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\n<script>\n     (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});\n<\/script><\/div><style type=\"text\/css\">\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 1201px) {\r\n.laixq6aa6207746f92 {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 993px) and (max-width: 1200px) {\r\n.laixq6aa6207746f92 {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 769px) and (max-width: 992px) {\r\n.laixq6aa6207746f92 {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 768px) and (max-width: 768px) {\r\n.laixq6aa6207746f92 {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (max-width: 767px) {\r\n.laixq6aa6207746f92 {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n<\/style>\r\n<p>Ne-am \u00eentrebat at\u00e2t eu, c\u00e2t \u0219i al\u021bi ortaci pensionari de ce se pierd procesele cu Casele de Pensii pe Legea nr. 192\/2015? Aveam \u0219i r\u0103spunsul, un r\u0103spuns neoficial \u0219i nesus\u021binut de vreo prob\u0103, \u0219i anume interven\u021bia politicului, pe diferite c\u0103i, \u00een actul de justi\u021bie. Dar acum avem \u0219i proba!<\/p>\n<p>Ministrul Justi\u021biei, Tudorel Toader, ordon\u0103 (el \u00eei spune \u201erecomandare\u201d) pre\u0219edin\u021bilor Cur\u021bilor de Apel \u0219i Tribunalelor s\u0103 resping\u0103 procesele \u201ecare au ca obiect drepturile salariale\u201d ale angaja\u021bilor (<a href=\"https:\/\/publisind.ro\/de-ce-se-pierd-procesele-bugetarilor-ministerul-justitiei-isi-baga-coada-avem-documentul-oficial\/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">link aici<\/a>). Deci, ministrul Toader ordon\u0103, pardon recomand\u0103, pre\u0219edin\u021bilor de instan\u021be, nici mai mult nici mai pu\u021bin, dec\u00e2t s\u0103 \u00eencalce legile \u00een vigoare.<\/p>\n<p>C\u00e2t despre separa\u021bia puterilor \u0219i independen\u021ba justi\u021biei nu se \u00eencurc\u0103 domnia sa \u00een asemenea detalii. Totul \u201e\u021bin\u00e2nd seama de impactul bugetar creat de hot\u0103r\u00e2rile judec\u0103tore\u0219ti\u201d pe care instan\u021bele de judecat\u0103 le vor pronun\u021ba. Prin aceast\u0103 ac\u021biune, de o gravitate extrem\u0103, statul dragnist \u00ee\u0219i recunoa\u0219te falimentul \u0219i faptul c\u0103 nu poate pl\u0103ti salariile angaja\u021bilor din sistem \u00een cuantumul stabilit prin legile \u00een vigoare.<\/p>\n<p>Acum v\u0103 ve\u021bi \u00eentreba ce leg\u0103tur\u0103 este \u00eentre demersul lui Tudorel Toader \u0219i Casele de Pensii? Este! Pentru c\u0103 a\u0219a cum ministrul Toader intervine brutal \u00een actul de justi\u021bie, la vedere, \u0219i al\u021bi mini\u0219tri au putut interveni, pe ascuns, \u0219i au putut influen\u021ba deciziile \u00een procesele pe care pensionarii nedrept\u0103\u021bi\u021bi le-au intentat Caselor de Pensii Jude\u021bene. S\u0103 detaliem:<\/p>\n<p>Legea 192 din 7 iulie 2015, publicat\u0103 \u00een Monitorul Oficial nr. 504 din 8 iulie 2015, p\u0103rea s\u0103 fi fost dat\u0103 pentru a corecta decalajul dintre cei care s-au pensionat \u00eenainte de 1 ianuarie 2011 \u0219i cei care au intrat \u00een pensie dup\u0103 acea dat\u0103. Spun p\u0103rea pentru c\u0103 se vede c\u0103 legea respectiv\u0103, dat\u0103 \u00een an preelectoral, a fost dat\u0103 de PSD pentru a le aduce voturi \u0219i nu din grija fa\u021b\u0103 de pensionari. Iar acum PSDragnea nu \u0219tie cum s\u0103 scape de efectele ei, neput\u00e2nd-o sus\u021bine financiar.<\/p>\n<p>Concret, Legea 192\/2015 avea \u00een vedere majorarea cu 50% a punctajului de pensie pentru persoanele care au lucrat \u00een grupa I de munc\u0103 \u0219i aici intr\u0103, \u00een principal, pensionarii din minerit, at\u00e2t cei de la exploatarea uraniului (condi\u021bii speciale), c\u00e2t \u0219i cei din minele de c\u0103rbuni \u0219i de minereuri. Mai intr\u0103, \u00eens\u0103, \u0219i muncitorii care au lucrat \u00een mediu toxic, cu expunere la praf \u0219i particule abrazive \u0219i alte asemenea, din combinate, fabrici \u0219i uzine, care au avut specificat grupa I de munc\u0103 \u00een carnetul de munc\u0103.<\/p>\n<p>De asemenea, legea avea \u00een vedere cre\u0219terea punctajelor cu 25% pentru pensionarii care proveneau din grupa a II-a de munc\u0103, adic\u0103 cei care proveneau din cariere, platforme miniere, turn\u0103torii sau alte locuri cu munc\u0103 grea \u0219i care, de asemenea, au avut trecut \u00een carnetul de munc\u0103 grupa \u0219i perioada \u00een care au desf\u0103\u0219urat astfel de activit\u0103\u021bi.<\/p>\n<p>Legea 192\/2015 mai prevedea c\u0103 recalcularea se va desf\u0103\u0219ura \u00een termen de doi ani (24 luni) \u0219i c\u0103 pensiile recalculate se pl\u0103tesc \u00eencep\u00e2nd cu 1 ianuarie 2016, indiferent de luna sau anul \u00een care se prime\u0219te decizia. Legea a fost primit\u0103 cu satisfac\u021bie de pensionarii de dinainte de anul 2011 \u0219i privit\u0103 ca un act de dreptate social\u0103.<\/p>\n<p>Doar c\u0103 dup\u0103 ce au \u00eenceput s\u0103 vin\u0103 deciziile de la Casele de Pensii, fie ele din Suceava, unde sunt \u0219i eu arondat, fie din Maramure\u0219, din Valea Jiului sau din Arge\u0219 (fostele mine de la Jil\u021b \u0219i Voievozi) satisfac\u021bia a fost \u00eenlocuit\u0103 de stupoare \u0219i m\u00e2nie.<\/p><div class=\"rvqbe6aa6207746fc4\" ><script async src=\"https:\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-9832460043734316\"\n     crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script>\n<!-- MDD 2024 - mijloc de articol -->\n<ins class=\"adsbygoogle\"\n     style=\"display:block\"\n     data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-9832460043734316\"\n     data-ad-slot=\"8739902356\"\n     data-ad-format=\"auto\"\n     data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\n<script>\n     (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});\n<\/script><\/div><style type=\"text\/css\">\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 1201px) {\r\n.rvqbe6aa6207746fc4 {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 993px) and (max-width: 1200px) {\r\n.rvqbe6aa6207746fc4 {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 769px) and (max-width: 992px) {\r\n.rvqbe6aa6207746fc4 {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 768px) and (max-width: 768px) {\r\n.rvqbe6aa6207746fc4 {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (max-width: 767px) {\r\n.rvqbe6aa6207746fc4 {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n<\/style>\r\n\n<p>Casele de Pensii au majorat cu 50% \u0219i stagiul de cotizare \u0219i astfel punctajul rezultat din calcul era mai mic dec\u00e2t cel aflat \u00een plat\u0103 \u0219i \u00een consecin\u021b\u0103 r\u0103m\u00e2nea \u00een plat\u0103 punctajul cel mai favorabil. Cinica explica\u021bie este c\u0103 pensiile nu scad! Dar nici nu cresc a\u0219a cum prevede legea. Toate deciziile de care am cuno\u0219tin\u021b\u0103 au fost calculate la fel \u0219i astfel, din pix, am r\u0103mas cu buza umflat\u0103.<\/p>\n<p>Am primit \u0219i eu o astfel de decizie pe 30 mai 2016. Am contestat-o, cu argumente juridice, am primit r\u0103spuns negativ, dup\u0103 care m-am adresat instan\u021bei de judecat\u0103. La fel au f\u0103cut o parte din colegi, al\u021bii prefer\u00e2nd expectativa \u201edeh, capra vecinului tr\u0103ie\u0219te, d\u0103 lapte, sau deja a murit\u201d. Avoca\u021bi, expertiz\u0103 contabil\u0103, timp, foarte mult timp pierdut, consum psihic \u0219i nervos. Unele procese c\u00e2\u0219tigate \u00een prim\u0103 instan\u021b\u0103, altele pierdute, pentru ca \u00een final, inexorabil, Curtea de Apel Suceava admite apelul Casei de Pensii.<\/p>\n<p>Dac\u0103 la \u00eenceput au fost c\u00e2\u0219tigate unele procese (justi\u021bia era \u00eenc\u0103 independent\u0103) dup\u0103 ce acesteia i s-a pus \u201epumnul \u00een gur\u0103\u201d s-a pierdut pe linie. \u00cen jungla legislativ\u0103 din Rom\u00e2nia, unde legile se calc\u0103 pe picioare unele cu altele, fiecare \u00ee\u0219i construie\u0219te propria argumenta\u021bie \u0219i se ajunge u\u0219or la un dialog al surzilor. Iar dac\u0103 \u0219i balan\u021ba este stricat\u0103&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Astfel \u0219i Casa de Pensii Suceava a g\u0103sit argumente \u00een favoarea ei, sco\u021b\u00e2nd sau introduc\u00e2nd \u00een lege, dup\u0103 bunul plac, elemente care \u00eei sus\u021bineau argumenta\u021bia mincinoas\u0103. Ne \u00eentreb\u0103m acum ce rost a avut Legea 192\/2015 dac\u0103 nimeni nu are nimic de c\u00e2\u0219tigat \u0219i care \u00eempinge institu\u021biile statului tir\u0103nesc \u0219i t\u00e2lh\u0103resc la minciun\u0103 \u0219i \u00een\u0219el\u0103torie? Iar pe pensionari \u00eei face s\u0103 piard\u0103 bani cu avoca\u021bi \u0219i exper\u021bi, cu drumuri, cu taxele judiciare \u0219i po\u0219tale, adic\u0103 pe cei care au avut curajul s\u0103 \u00eenfrunte \u201esistemul tic\u0103lo\u0219it\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Cheltuieli suportate din pensii poate ceva mai mari dec\u00e2t ale altor categorii de pensionari, dar s\u0103 nu uit\u0103m c\u0103 minerii au lucrat 15-20 de ani, unii chiar mai mult, sub p\u0103m\u00e2nt, \u00eenc\u0103l\u021ba\u021bi zilnic \u00een cisme de cauciuc, de multe ori sparte din cauza proastei calit\u0103\u021bi a echipamentului de lucru, \u00een curent \u0219i praf radioactiv, \u00een locuri de munc\u0103 \u00een care \u201eploua\u201d, cum se spunea, cu referire la locurile de munc\u0103 cu infiltra\u021bii de ap\u0103.<\/p>\n<p>Nu spun acestea ca s\u0103 fim comp\u0103timi\u021bi, ne-am ales meseria, \u0219tiam care sunt riscurile \u0219i, \u00een ceea ce m\u0103 prive\u0219te, a\u0219 lua-o de la cap\u0103t dac\u0103 m-a\u0219 \u00eentoarce la vremea tinere\u021bii. Poate cu ceva mai mult\u0103 \u00een\u021belepciune. Dac\u0103 ar exista statistici \u00een privin\u021ba st\u0103rii de s\u0103n\u0103tate \u0219i a mortalit\u0103\u021bii celor care au lucrat la IMR (\u00centreprinderea Metale Rare Bucure\u0219ti, EM Crucea), aceasta a purtat mai multe denumiri \u00een decursul anilor, dar \u00een mentalul colectiv a r\u0103mas \u0219i ast\u0103zi ca IMR \u0219i IMR-i\u0219ti, rezultatele ar fi, cred eu, cutremur\u0103toare.<\/p>\n<p>Mul\u021bi au murit \u00eenainte de a \u00eemplini 60 de ani, \u00eenc\u00e2t pot spune c\u0103 cei care au dep\u0103\u0219it acest prag sunt mai degrab\u0103 excep\u021bia dec\u00e2t regula. Sau poate tocmai de aceasta trage de timp statul dragnist. Sper\u0103 s\u0103 moar\u0103 c\u00e2t mai mul\u021bi, dat fiind faptul c\u0103 mineritul a fost \u00een mare parte lichidat \u0219i nu mai produce pensionari, \u00eenc\u00e2t s\u0103 aib\u0103 c\u00e2t mai pu\u021bin de pl\u0103tit. Cinic calcul economic.<\/p>\n<p>Justi\u021bia? Care justi\u021bie? Actul oficial, cu antetul Guvernului \u0219i al Ministerului Justi\u021biei, cu semn\u0103tur\u0103 \u0219i \u0219tampil\u0103 d\u0103r\u00e2m\u0103 oficial mitul, c\u0103ci mit a fost, independen\u021bei justi\u021biei. Tovar\u0103\u0219a cu c\u00e2ntarul stricat \u0219i c\u00e2rpa ro\u0219ie la ochi a dovedit c\u0103 este nu numai oarb\u0103, ci \u0219i proast\u0103 \u0219i curv\u0103.<\/p>\n<div class=\"tjlaf6aa6207746fde\" ><script async src=\"https:\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-9832460043734316\"\n     crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script>\n<!-- MDD 2024 - final de articol -->\n<ins class=\"adsbygoogle\"\n     style=\"display:block\"\n     data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-9832460043734316\"\n     data-ad-slot=\"2429140290\"\n     data-ad-format=\"auto\"\n     data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\n<script>\n     (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});\n<\/script><\/div><style type=\"text\/css\">\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 1201px) {\r\n.tjlaf6aa6207746fde {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 993px) and (max-width: 1200px) {\r\n.tjlaf6aa6207746fde {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 769px) and (max-width: 992px) {\r\n.tjlaf6aa6207746fde {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 768px) and (max-width: 768px) {\r\n.tjlaf6aa6207746fde {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (max-width: 767px) {\r\n.tjlaf6aa6207746fde {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n<\/style>\r\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ne-am \u00eentrebat at\u00e2t eu, c\u00e2t \u0219i al\u021bi ortaci pensionari de ce se pierd procesele cu Casele de Pensii pe Legea nr. 192\/2015? Aveam \u0219i r\u0103spunsul, un r\u0103spuns neoficial \u0219i nesus\u021binut de vreo prob\u0103, \u0219i anume interven\u021bia politicului, pe diferite c\u0103i, \u00een actul de justi\u021bie. Dar acum avem \u0219i proba! 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