{"id":279988,"date":"2017-08-04T21:10:06","date_gmt":"2017-08-04T18:10:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.monitoruldedorna.ro\/?p=279988"},"modified":"2017-08-04T21:10:06","modified_gmt":"2017-08-04T18:10:06","slug":"dornisme-decontarea-magaziilor-revine","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.monitoruldedorna.ro\/?p=279988","title":{"rendered":"Dornisme: decontarea magaziilor revine"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"iapxf6aa60fffe9ec0\" ><script async src=\"https:\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-9832460043734316\"\n     crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script>\n<!-- MDD - \u00eenceput de articol -->\n<ins class=\"adsbygoogle\"\n     style=\"display:block\"\n     data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-9832460043734316\"\n     data-ad-slot=\"2844073262\"\n     data-ad-format=\"auto\"\n     data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\n<script>\n     (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});\n<\/script><\/div><style type=\"text\/css\">\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 1201px) {\r\n.iapxf6aa60fffe9ec0 {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 993px) and (max-width: 1200px) {\r\n.iapxf6aa60fffe9ec0 {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 769px) and (max-width: 992px) {\r\n.iapxf6aa60fffe9ec0 {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 768px) and (max-width: 768px) {\r\n.iapxf6aa60fffe9ec0 {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (max-width: 767px) {\r\n.iapxf6aa60fffe9ec0 {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n<\/style>\r\n<p>De\u015fi au trecut aproape patru luni de la <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.monitoruldedorna.ro\/?p=279428\" target=\"_blank\">celebrul \u201escandal al magaziilor\u201d<\/a><\/em>, primarul Ilie Bonche\u015f revine \u00een \u015fedin\u0163a de Consiliu Local asupra sumelor destinate celor dou\u0103 magazii, cea din spatele bibliotecii, respectiv cea de la centrul de b\u0103tr\u00e2ni, acestea fiind cu mult diminuate.<\/p>\n<p>Un primar responsabil ar fi rezolvat problema \u00een cel mult 24 de ore, imediat dup\u0103 \u00eenceperea scandalului, amend\u00e2nd firma care a construit cele dou\u0103 magazii f\u0103r\u0103 autoriza\u0163ie, apoi, dup\u0103 demolarea lor, ar fi scos imediat la licita\u0163ie construc\u0163iile, de data aceasta respect\u00e2nd toate procedurile legale.<\/p>\n<p>Nu s-a \u00eent\u00e2mplat acest lucru, iar acum primarul \u00eenainteaz\u0103 noi pre\u0163uri pentru decontarea sau construc\u0163ia celor dou\u0103 magazii (\u00een cazul \u00een care cele construite ilegal vor fi demolate). De vreme ce e pu\u0163in probabil ca Ilie Bonche\u0219 s\u0103 dispun\u0103 demolarea \u015fi reconstruirea lor, r\u0103m\u00e2ne varianta a doua, \u015fi anume plata acestora c\u0103tre firma constructoare. Ce anume l-ar putea face pe primar s\u0103 fac\u0103 \u00eentr-un final plata, \u00een ciuda faptului c\u0103 \u015ftie c\u0103 o astfel de plat\u0103 intr\u0103 \u00een sfera penalului?<\/p>\n<p>Cea mai simpl\u0103 explica\u0163ie ar putea fi urm\u0103toarea: sf\u0103tuitorii domnului primar au informa\u0163ii legate de stabilirea unui prag pentru abuzul \u00een serviciu, prag care, dac\u0103 va stabili o sum\u0103 suficient de mare, va acorda o marj\u0103 \u00een care primarii s\u0103 poat\u0103 face tot felul de \u201egiumbu\u015flucuri\u201d, f\u0103r\u0103 a se mai teme c\u0103 vor intra \u00een sfera penalului.<\/p>\n<p>\u00cen felul acesta, dezideratul pe care \u015fi l-au propus guvernan\u0163ii PSD-ALDE atunci c\u00e2nd au ajuns la conducere, acela de a-\u015fi salva \u00een teritoriu ga\u015fca politic\u0103, care acumulase teancuri de dosare la DNA, se va \u00eendeplini. <\/p>\n<p><strong>Un dialog preluat de pe siteul de achizi\u021bii publice<\/strong> <\/p>\n<p>\u00cen data de 29.03.2017, pe siteul mai sus amintit, a ap\u0103rut urm\u0103toarea conversa\u021bie: <\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00centrebare constructor:<\/strong> \u201eBun\u0103 ziua! Am o \u00eentrebare. \u00cen octombrie-noiembrie 2016, o autoritate contractant\u0103 a decis efectuarea unor lucr\u0103ri de construc\u0163ii a dou\u0103 magazii \u00een regim de urgen\u0163\u0103, justificate de lipsa de spa\u0163iu de depozitare a combustibililor solizi (lemne de foc). Constructorul a construit acele dou\u0103 imobile \u00een termen de o lun\u0103, dar f\u0103r\u0103 a \u00eencheia un contract cu autoritatea contractant\u0103, pe motiv c\u0103 lista de achizi\u0163ii nu putea fi modificat\u0103 \u00een lunile noiembrie-decembrie 2016 \u015fi nici timp pentru publicarea pe SEAP nu mai era, a\u015fa c\u0103 aceasta a promis constructorului c\u0103 va include pe lista de investi\u0163ii acele dou\u0103 construc\u0163ii \u00een luna ianuarie 2017, luna c\u00e2nd va opera \u015fi anun\u0163ul pe SEAP.<\/p>\n<p>Bugetul a fost adoptat abia \u00een luna martie 2017, iar Consiliul Local nu a mai fost de acord cu includerea celor dou\u0103 magazii pe lista de investi\u0163ii, motiv\u00e2nd faptul c\u0103 cele dou\u0103 construc\u0163ii sunt deja realizate fizic, astfel c\u0103 datorit\u0103 nerespect\u0103rii procedurilor, nu se mai poate publica anun\u0163ul pe SEAP \u015fi implicit contracta \u015fi deconta lucrarea.<\/p><div class=\"edqdz6aa60fffe9ee6\" ><script async src=\"https:\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-9832460043734316\"\n     crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script>\n<!-- MDD 2024 - mijloc de articol -->\n<ins class=\"adsbygoogle\"\n     style=\"display:block\"\n     data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-9832460043734316\"\n     data-ad-slot=\"8739902356\"\n     data-ad-format=\"auto\"\n     data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\n<script>\n     (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});\n<\/script><\/div><style type=\"text\/css\">\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 1201px) {\r\n.edqdz6aa60fffe9ee6 {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 993px) and (max-width: 1200px) {\r\n.edqdz6aa60fffe9ee6 {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 769px) and (max-width: 992px) {\r\n.edqdz6aa60fffe9ee6 {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 768px) and (max-width: 768px) {\r\n.edqdz6aa60fffe9ee6 {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (max-width: 767px) {\r\n.edqdz6aa60fffe9ee6 {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n<\/style>\r\n\n<p>\u0162in\u00e2nd cont de toate aceste aspecte, cum poate ac\u0163iona constructorul asupra autorit\u0103\u0163ii contractante, legal, pentru a-\u015fi recupera banii? Men\u0163ionez c\u0103 a existat o situa\u0163ie de urgen\u0163\u0103 legat\u0103 de necesitatea construirii acelor dou\u0103 magazii \u015fi c\u0103 suma cumulat\u0103 a acestor construc\u0163ii este sub 100.000 lei\u201d.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.monitoruldedorna.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/discutie-site.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"279989\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.monitoruldedorna.ro\/?attachment_id=279989\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/www.monitoruldedorna.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/discutie-site.png\" data-orig-size=\"900,1006\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"discutie-site\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/www.monitoruldedorna.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/discutie-site.png\" src=\"https:\/\/www.monitoruldedorna.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/discutie-site-268x300.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"268\" height=\"300\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-279989\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.monitoruldedorna.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/discutie-site-268x300.png 268w, https:\/\/www.monitoruldedorna.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/discutie-site-768x858.png 768w, https:\/\/www.monitoruldedorna.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/discutie-site.png 900w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 268px) 100vw, 268px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>R\u0103spuns:<\/strong> \u201eDin cele expuse \u00een\u0163eleg c\u0103 nici m\u0103car achizi\u0163ie direct\u0103 offline nu e, ci mai degrab\u0103 o t\u00e2rguial\u0103 f\u0103r\u0103 ofert\u0103 \u015fi contract. Pentru construirea magaziilor trebuia s\u0103 fie emis\u0103 m\u0103car o comand\u0103 scris\u0103. \u00cen cazul \u00een care nu exist\u0103 niciun document scris \u015fi semnat de p\u0103r\u0163i, constructorul va trebui s\u0103 fac\u0103 dovada construirii \u015fi s\u0103 notifice \u00een scris autoritatea contractant\u0103 \u00een leg\u0103tur\u0103 cu o eventual\u0103 recuperare a obliga\u0163iilor de plat\u0103 pe cale judec\u0103toreasc\u0103\u201d.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00centrebare constructor:<\/strong> \u201eA\u015fa e, nu exist\u0103 contract nici achizi\u0163ie offline, dar exist\u0103 referate de necesitate f\u0103cute de serviciul de urbanism cu privire la necesitatea execut\u0103rii acestora. De asemenea, autoritatea contractant\u0103 ar dori s\u0103 fac\u0103 plata, dar motiveaz\u0103 c\u0103 nu are cadrul legal de a mai scoate acum pe SEAP lucr\u0103rile. S-a mers pe \u00eencredere, iar un jurist mi-a spus c\u0103 pot s\u0103 fac pl\u00e2ngere penal\u0103 pentru abuz de \u00eencredere\u201d.<\/p>\n<p><strong>R\u0103spuns:<\/strong> \u201ePentru ce dracu mai dore\u0219te autoritatea s\u0103 scoat\u0103 acum lucr\u0103rile pe SEAP? \u0218i ce-o fi \u00eensemn\u00e2nd acest lucru? Mai exact cred c\u0103 ar vrea operatorul, adic\u0103 tu (din c\u00e2te am \u00een\u021beles eu), s\u0103 publici lucr\u0103rile \u00een catalogul electronic SEAP \u0219i ea s\u0103 ini\u021bieze achizi\u021bia direct\u0103 acolo. Singura ta \u0219ans\u0103 s\u0103-\u021bi iei banii pe lucrarea executat\u0103 e instan\u021ba de judecat\u0103\u201d.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00cen loc de concluzie<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Dialogul de mai sus aminte\u0219te de cel purtat \u00een Consiliul Local, unde nici consilierii, nici comisiile de specialitate nu erau \u00een tem\u0103 cu subiectul dezb\u0103tut. Pe de o parte unii reclamau pre\u021bul, pe de alt\u0103 parte al\u021bii veneau cu solu\u021bii \u201elegale\u201d numai bune pentru DNA. Se pare c\u0103 dialogul absurdului nu a avut nici p\u00e2n\u0103 azi, pentru niciuna din p\u0103r\u021bi, o solu\u021bie.<\/p>\n<p>Cum se va \u00eencheia aceast\u0103 poveste nu se \u0219tie. \u0218i nu \u0219tim dac\u0103 acest precedent nu va crea \u0219i alte situa\u021bii asem\u0103n\u0103toare. \u021ain\u00e2nd cont de c\u00e2te n\u0103zb\u00e2tii financiare am avut parte \u00een cei 28 de ani de democra\u021bie, vom fi oric\u00e2nd expu\u0219i (s\u0103racul buget local) la fel de fel de \u00eencerc\u0103ri de a acoperi matrapazl\u00e2curi locale.<\/p>\n<div class=\"dmpjl6aa60fffe9efe\" ><script async src=\"https:\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-9832460043734316\"\n     crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script>\n<!-- MDD 2024 - final de articol -->\n<ins class=\"adsbygoogle\"\n     style=\"display:block\"\n     data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-9832460043734316\"\n     data-ad-slot=\"2429140290\"\n     data-ad-format=\"auto\"\n     data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\n<script>\n     (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});\n<\/script><\/div><style type=\"text\/css\">\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 1201px) {\r\n.dmpjl6aa60fffe9efe {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 993px) and (max-width: 1200px) {\r\n.dmpjl6aa60fffe9efe {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 769px) and (max-width: 992px) {\r\n.dmpjl6aa60fffe9efe {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 768px) and (max-width: 768px) {\r\n.dmpjl6aa60fffe9efe {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (max-width: 767px) {\r\n.dmpjl6aa60fffe9efe {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n<\/style>\r\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>De\u015fi au trecut aproape patru luni de la celebrul \u201escandal al magaziilor\u201d, primarul Ilie Bonche\u015f revine \u00een \u015fedin\u0163a de Consiliu Local asupra sumelor destinate celor dou\u0103 magazii, cea din spatele bibliotecii, respectiv cea de la centrul de b\u0103tr\u00e2ni, acestea fiind cu mult diminuate. 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