{"id":218986,"date":"2016-05-07T11:24:20","date_gmt":"2016-05-07T08:24:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.monitoruldedorna.ro\/?p=218986"},"modified":"2016-05-07T11:24:20","modified_gmt":"2016-05-07T08:24:20","slug":"legile-romaniei-nu-se-aplica-in-fieful-presedintelui-sorin-murgu","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.monitoruldedorna.ro\/?p=218986","title":{"rendered":"Legile Rom\u00e2niei nu se aplic\u0103 \u00een \u201efieful\u201d pre\u015fedintelui Sorin Murgu"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"vstjr6aa6207d18f92\" ><script async src=\"https:\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-9832460043734316\"\n     crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script>\n<!-- MDD - \u00eenceput de articol -->\n<ins class=\"adsbygoogle\"\n     style=\"display:block\"\n     data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-9832460043734316\"\n     data-ad-slot=\"2844073262\"\n     data-ad-format=\"auto\"\n     data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\n<script>\n     (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});\n<\/script><\/div><style type=\"text\/css\">\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 1201px) {\r\n.vstjr6aa6207d18f92 {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 993px) and (max-width: 1200px) {\r\n.vstjr6aa6207d18f92 {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 769px) and (max-width: 992px) {\r\n.vstjr6aa6207d18f92 {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 768px) and (max-width: 768px) {\r\n.vstjr6aa6207d18f92 {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (max-width: 767px) {\r\n.vstjr6aa6207d18f92 {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n<\/style>\r\n<p>De\u015fi aplicarea unei legi promulgat\u0103 de Pre\u015fedintele \u0163\u0103rii \u015fi publicat\u0103 \u00een Monitorul Oficial devine obligatorie, fie c\u0103 ne place, fie c\u0103 nu ne place, pe teritoriul republicii lui Murgu, respectiv a Asocia\u0163iei de proprietari nr. 1, din Vatra Dornei, aceasta este op\u0163ional\u0103.<\/p>\n<p>Cu toate c\u0103 am cerut \u00een mod verbal, ar\u0103t\u00e2ndu-le textul Legii nr. 17\/2016, pre\u015fedintelui asocia\u0163iei Sorin Murgu \u015fi administratorului acesteia, Dorin Larionescu, aplicare legii \u00eencep\u00e2nd cu cheltuielile lunare pentru martie 2016; cu toate c\u0103 m-am adresat \u00een scris pre\u015fedintelui asocia\u0163iei, prin cererea \u00eenregistrat\u0103 sub nr. 1092\/24.03.2016; cu toate c\u0103 am f\u0103cut cunoscut, prin intermediul <a href=\"https:\/\/www.monitoruldedorna.ro\/\" target=\"_blank\">publica\u0163iei Monitorul de Dorna<\/a> intrarea \u00een vigoare a Legii care prevede c\u0103:<\/p>\n<p>\u201eAsocia\u0163ia de proprietari, prin grija pre\u015fedintelui asocia\u0163iei, va afi\u015fa lunar, la vedere, l\u00e2ng\u0103 lista de plat\u0103 a cheltuielilor asocia\u0163iei de proprietari, modalitatea de calcul \u00een urma c\u0103reia au rezultat sumele lunare de plat\u0103 ale proprietarilor. Modalitatea de calcul va con\u0163ine \u015fi va ar\u0103ta explicit toate costurile \u015fi sumele care formeaz\u0103 totalul de plat\u0103 al proprietarilor, respectiv modul de calcul \u015fi de repartizare a acestor cheltuieli c\u0103tre proprietari\u201d, pe lista de plat\u0103 a cheltuielilor lunare pentru luna martie 2016 ale blocului 23, de pe strada Unirii, nr. 88, am constatat c\u0103 toate acestea au fost trecute&#8230; cu vederea.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"182150\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.monitoruldedorna.ro\/?attachment_id=182150\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/www.monitoruldedorna.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/tablou_cheltuieli_asociatie.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"900,561\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"tablou_cheltuieli_asociatie\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/www.monitoruldedorna.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/tablou_cheltuieli_asociatie.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/www.monitoruldedorna.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/tablou_cheltuieli_asociatie.jpg\" alt=\"tablou_cheltuieli_asociatie\" width=\"900\" height=\"561\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-182150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.monitoruldedorna.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/tablou_cheltuieli_asociatie.jpg 900w, https:\/\/www.monitoruldedorna.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/tablou_cheltuieli_asociatie-300x187.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.monitoruldedorna.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/tablou_cheltuieli_asociatie-768x479.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 900px) 100vw, 900px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Lista cheltuielilor comune a fost afi\u015fat\u0103 cu elementele cunoscute din lunile anterioare, \u00eens\u0103 nimic \u00een ceea ce prive\u015fte modul de calcul a cotei \u0163evi \u015fi a cotei indivize. Nimic \u00een ceea ce prive\u015fte calcului pierderilor la apa rece. Aceste a\u015fa zise pierderi apar pe lista de plat\u0103 cu o valoare de 5,77 lei\/ap., ceea ce \u00eenseamn\u0103 pierderi la nivelul sc\u0103rii (al blocului, acesta av\u00e2nd o singur\u0103 scar\u0103) de peste 15 metri cubi pentru luna martie (men\u0163ionez c\u0103 \u00een anul 2016 s-au consemnat pierderi de ap\u0103 \u00een fiecare lun\u0103, dar mai mici, de 2-3 lei lunar pe apartament).<\/p>\n<p>Nimic \u00een ceea ce prive\u015fte modul de calcul al gunoiului menajer, a cheltuielilor comune sau a energiei electrice (care a fost indicele citit, c\u00e2\u0163i kwh sunt eviden\u0163ia\u0163i pe factura emis\u0103 de e.on., etc). A urmat, firesc, un refuz de plat\u0103 exprimat \u00een scris de subsemnatul, prin adresa \u00eenregistrat\u0103 sub nr. 1109\/22.04.2016, prin care am refuzat plata cotei indivize \u015fi a pierderilor de ap\u0103 rece.<\/p>\n<p>Acesta nu reprezint\u0103 dec\u00e2t un episod recent din lunga b\u0103t\u0103lie purtat\u0103 de subsemnatul pentru spargerea blocadei informa\u0163ionale care \u00eenconjoar\u0103 Asocia\u0163ia nr. 1. Aceast\u0103 lupt\u0103 cu actuala conducere a \u00eenceput \u00een luna februarie a anului 2014, atunci credeam c\u0103 o nou\u0103 conducere, format\u0103 din oameni mai tineri, vine cu o nou\u0103 mentalitate de lucru \u00een rela\u0163ia cu membrii asocia\u0163iei, de care sunt pl\u0103ti\u0163i s\u0103 le reprezinte interesele, prin adresa \u00eenregistrat\u0103 sub nr. 788\/24.02.2014 prin care ceream, printre alte nemul\u0163umiri, s\u0103 precizeze temeiul legal care st\u0103 la baza calcului, celebrelor deja, cote \u0163evi \u015fi indivize. Dar&#8230; t\u0103cere.<\/p><div class=\"ztprh6aa6207d18fb6\" ><script async src=\"https:\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-9832460043734316\"\n     crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script>\n<!-- MDD 2024 - mijloc de articol -->\n<ins class=\"adsbygoogle\"\n     style=\"display:block\"\n     data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-9832460043734316\"\n     data-ad-slot=\"8739902356\"\n     data-ad-format=\"auto\"\n     data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\n<script>\n     (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});\n<\/script><\/div><style type=\"text\/css\">\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 1201px) {\r\n.ztprh6aa6207d18fb6 {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 993px) and (max-width: 1200px) {\r\n.ztprh6aa6207d18fb6 {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 769px) and (max-width: 992px) {\r\n.ztprh6aa6207d18fb6 {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 768px) and (max-width: 768px) {\r\n.ztprh6aa6207d18fb6 {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (max-width: 767px) {\r\n.ztprh6aa6207d18fb6 {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n<\/style>\r\n\n<p>Revin dup\u0103 30 de zile, conform prevederilor legale, cu o alt\u0103 adres\u0103, \u0219i anume 796\/24.03.2014, prin care \u00eei somam s\u0103-mi r\u0103spund\u0103, conform prevederilor Legii 230\/2007 \u015fi ale Legii 544\/2001. Primesc, \u00een sf\u00e2r\u015fit, r\u0103spuns scris, prin adresa 880\/31.03.2014. Un r\u0103spuns redactat \u00een limbajul de lemn al unei epoci, pe care o consideram de mult apuse (constat, cu triste\u0163e, c\u0103 g\u00e2ndirea \u015fi limbajul de lemn tr\u0103iesc \u015fi prosper\u0103 prin noi \u00een\u015fine, dovad\u0103 c\u0103 suntem mai bolnavi dec\u00e2t p\u0103rem la prima vedere).<\/p>\n<p>\u00cen adresa respectiv\u0103 se f\u0103cea referire la ni\u015fte texte din legea 230, pe care le cuno\u015fteam, \u015fi la HG 933\/2004 privind: \u201econtorizarea consumatorilor racorda\u0163i la sistemele publice de alimentare cu energie termic\u0103\u201d. Numai c\u0103&#8230; surpriz\u0103. \u00cen HG nu exist\u0103 nici o formul\u0103 matematic\u0103 de calcul privind cota \u0163evi, respectiv cota indiviz\u0103. Calculul se face, b\u0103nuiesc c\u0103 \u015fi ast\u0103zi, dup\u0103 o serie de formule elaborate de&#8230; DADP.<\/p>\n<p>M\u0103 adresez printr-un memoriu, \u00eenregistrat sub num\u0103rul 13828\/23.06.2014, Prim\u0103riei municipiului \u015fi prin aceast\u0103 institu\u0163ie Direc\u0163iei Administra\u0163iei Domeniului Public, ca structur\u0103 subordonat\u0103 ei, prin care aduceam obiec\u0163iuni  la modul de calcul al respectivelor cote, ar\u0103t\u00e2nd c\u0103 STAS-urile sunt dep\u0103\u015fite \u015fi c\u0103 nu au leg\u0103tur\u0103 cu realitatea din teren. Prin r\u0103spunsul primit, \u00eenregistrat sub acela\u015fi num\u0103r, \u00eens\u0103 datat 08.07.2014, mi se aducea la cuno\u015ftin\u0163\u0103 care sunt limitele de competen\u0163\u0103 ale Direc\u0163iei \u015fi c\u0103 \u201erepartizarea diferen\u0163elor dintre consumurile \u00eenregistrate de contorul furnizorului \u015fi suma contoarelor individuale se face de c\u0103tre Asocia\u0163ia de proprietari nr. 1\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>\u015ei un lucru interesant: \u201eam prezentat acel mod de calcul sub forma unui exemplu. Calculul cotei \u0163evi \u015fi al cotei indivize intr\u0103 \u00een atribu\u0163iile asocia\u0163iei de proprietari\u201d. Adic\u0103 \u00een traducere liber\u0103, asocia\u0163ia de proprietari putea s\u0103-\u015fi elaboreze propriile rela\u0163ii de calcul. De asemenea, se sublinia \u00een r\u0103spuns c\u0103 \u201esubsolul blocului reprezint\u0103 spa\u0163iu comun, iar energia termic\u0103 din conductele de la subsol intr\u0103 \u00een compunerea cotei indivize\u201d. M\u0103 \u00eentreb care energie radiat\u0103, pentru c\u0103 respectivele conducte sunt izolate, iar dac\u0103 au pierderi acestea trebuiesc demonstrate prin calcul. Deci, ce se cere \u00een lege?<\/p>\n<p>Am remis un exemplar administra\u0163iei asocia\u0163iei, crez\u00e2nd c\u0103 ne afl\u0103m de aceea\u015fi parte a baricadei \u015fi c\u0103 r\u0103spunsul pe care uram s\u0103-l d\u0103m DADP-ului s\u0103 fie unul comun. T\u0103cerea lor mi-a spulberat iluziile \u015fi m-a trezit la realitate: proprietarii \u015fi administra\u0163ia asocia\u0163iei nu au interese comune \u015fi prima lupt\u0103 trebuie purtat\u0103 tocmai cu aceast\u0103 structur\u0103. Repet: pl\u0103tit\u0103 din bani no\u015ftri, ai proprietarilor. Am constatat, cu triste\u0163e, c\u0103 \u00een cadrul asocia\u0163iei func\u0163ioneaz\u0103 legea omertei. Nu se furnizeaz\u0103 r\u0103spunsuri la \u00eentreb\u0103rile proprietarilor dec\u00e2t cu mare greutate, \u015fi de fapt dezinform\u0103ri, manipul\u0103ri \u015fi minciuni.<\/p>\n<p>Acum se p\u0103rea c\u0103 a ie\u015fit soarele \u015fi pe strada noastr\u0103, ca s\u0103 spun a\u015fa, odat\u0103 cu promulgarea Legii 17\/2016, dar v\u0103d c\u0103 nu este a\u015fa. \u00cen fieful pre\u015fedintelui Sorin Murgu legile \u0163\u0103rii nu se aplic\u0103. \u00cei sugerez acestuia s\u0103-l invite pe Pre\u015fedintele Iohannis la o discu\u0163ie bilateral\u0103, a\u015fa ca \u00eentre pre\u015fedin\u0163i, \u015fi s\u0103 semneze un acord prin care s\u0103 stipuleze clar care din legile Rom\u00e2niei se aplic\u0103 \u015fi pe teritoriul republicii sale. Poate \u015fi invers: care din legile promulgate de Murgu sunt obligatorii \u015fi pe teritoriul Rom\u00e2niei.<\/p>\n<div class=\"lwryb6aa6207d18fce\" ><script async src=\"https:\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-9832460043734316\"\n     crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script>\n<!-- MDD 2024 - final de articol -->\n<ins class=\"adsbygoogle\"\n     style=\"display:block\"\n     data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-9832460043734316\"\n     data-ad-slot=\"2429140290\"\n     data-ad-format=\"auto\"\n     data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\n<script>\n     (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});\n<\/script><\/div><style type=\"text\/css\">\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 1201px) {\r\n.lwryb6aa6207d18fce {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 993px) and (max-width: 1200px) {\r\n.lwryb6aa6207d18fce {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 769px) and (max-width: 992px) {\r\n.lwryb6aa6207d18fce {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (min-width: 768px) and (max-width: 768px) {\r\n.lwryb6aa6207d18fce {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n@media screen and (max-width: 767px) {\r\n.lwryb6aa6207d18fce {\r\ndisplay: block;\r\n}\r\n}\r\n<\/style>\r\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>De\u015fi aplicarea unei legi promulgat\u0103 de Pre\u015fedintele \u0163\u0103rii \u015fi publicat\u0103 \u00een Monitorul Oficial devine obligatorie, fie c\u0103 ne place, fie c\u0103 nu ne place, pe teritoriul republicii lui Murgu, respectiv a Asocia\u0163iei de proprietari nr. 1, din Vatra Dornei, aceasta este op\u0163ional\u0103. 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